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Don McKernan (Verified User) Posts 52 Dogs 0 / Races 0 10 Jun 2012 13:54
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Was offered chicken at rite price. How many times should I mince it to be sure bones are "dissolved". Very afraid of dogs choking.
John Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 3490 Dogs 945 / Races 0 11 Jun 2012 03:46
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there is chicken mince then there is real chicken mince some people mince the frames where there is no meat at all just frames and the there is chicken frames with meat and skin on it which is a lot better and some people can buy the chicken that is brused and broken that is all chicken that is the best buy of them all.
Stephen Chambers Australia (Verified User) Posts 21135 Dogs 3 / Races 0 11 Jun 2012 03:56
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Don McKernan wrote:
Was offered chicken at rite price. How many times should I mince it to be sure bones are "dissolved". Very afraid of dogs choking.
i would be mincing the chicken mince or frames or whole chicken twice with a medium plate and then you shouldnt have any worries about them choking cheers chub.
Sean Conway Ireland (Verified User) Posts 236 Dogs 61 / Races 0 11 Jun 2012 04:10
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Don if you boil it well you wont have any bother as it will break up into very small bits.
Nice to see your still asking silly questions just to c your name appear on the computer. lol lol
Have you ever trained a winner yet. lol lol
Wat about the litter you reared that came out off the boxes and went 10 yards and then turned around in a circle with excitement before heading around the track again???????????????
Did you ever find the father off them pups because i reckon they were bred by a sheep dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol lol lol
Lance Day Australia (Verified User) Posts 864 Dogs 16 / Races 1 11 Jun 2012 12:38
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I wouldn't be feedyng chicken mince at all. Cheap crapp.
Don McKernan (Verified User) Posts 52 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 Jun 2012 14:34
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Fair enough Lance. Had bad experience near Dungannon....Have given big money for a pup can't afford any accidents to happen.
Paul Blyth Australia (Verified User) Posts 332 Dogs 10 / Races 0 11 Jun 2012 14:43
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Beef , brisket bones, kibble, boiled veges, good calcium, fish, stews. Why pay big money for a pup then feed it the cheapest meat?
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 11 Jun 2012 21:38
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paul blyth wrote:
Beef , brisket bones, kibble, boiled veges, good calcium, fish, stews. Why pay big money for a pup then feed it the cheapest meat?
I once ran out of beef due to the misus screwing my pick up so in the arvo I went to local butcher and he showed me a box of chicken mash so I asked him how much he said I buy it for $6 a 25kg box (quality product) anyways I got 8 kilos to get me through the weekend and when I got home I went to put it in the bowls as I thought it was chicken mince and when I felt the bones I thought what the? So I rang him up and asked him what it was he told me all the rubbish, carcasses fat scrap?
I got off the phone tipped the bowls out in the bin with the other 4 kilos of rubbish and went down to a wholesale meat guy and got 10 kilos 100% beef mince at a juicy $8 a kilo and swore never to run out of meat or contemplate feeding my greyhounds cheap crap even if it was just a day or two when stuck!
They are what they eat!
Keith Lloyd Australia (Verified User) Posts 1326 Dogs 54 / Races 3 11 Jun 2012 22:14
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Nearly every top trainer around here feeds half horse, half minced chicken frames, and that includes Bate and Daillys. They must get better than what they eat???
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 11 Jun 2012 22:30
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It was good enough for all Rod Deakin's race dogs, and pups.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 11 Jun 2012 22:31
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Dogs in the wild would have eaten ducks, geese and any other bird they could catch along with rabbits and other prey.
It makes for a diversity in the diet.
Alex Taylor Australia (Verified User) Posts 1607 Dogs 6 / Races 38 11 Jun 2012 23:04
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Dogs in the wild would have eaten ducks, geese and any other bird they could catch along with rabbits and other prey.
It makes for a diversity in the diet.
You talking about greyhounds or Italian sheep herders?
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 11 Jun 2012 23:05
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Both
Alex Taylor Australia (Verified User) Posts 1607 Dogs 6 / Races 38 11 Jun 2012 23:10
Take into account this was probably written about domestic pets. Wether it can be used in relation to working animals, the smarties will let us know.
Darren McKenzie Australia (Verified User) Posts 1823 Dogs 96 / Races 105 11 Jun 2012 23:19
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Carole Brown wrote:
It was good enough for all Rod Deakin's race dogs, and pups.
Here's a couple of paragraphs from a ROD DEAKIN article done by the QLD Journal many years ago...........in relation to feeding 'CHICKEN'.......
"And the second surprise with Deakin's young matrons and their offspring is that their main food was chicken.
Deakin swung over to chicken some years back after studying a report by the National Academy of Science of the research council of the USA comparing it with horse, beef and liver."
Not feeding 'chicken' as a food for dogs is a big mistake...........it has essential elements in it that other meats don't have...........that dogs do require.
If you'd like a copy of the 'DEAKIN' article.........list your email address and I'll send it on.
This article has a table to indicate the comparisons between diffferent meats in it...........it's a 2 part article done on this truely great greyhound participant.
Darren Murnane Australia (Verified User) Posts 384 Dogs 21 / Races 40 12 Jun 2012 00:42
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Darren McKenzie wrote:
Not feeding 'chicken' as a food for dogs is a big mistake...........it has essential elements in it that other meats don't have...........that dogs do require.
If you'd like a copy of the 'DEAKIN' article.........list your email address and I'll send it on.
This article has a table to indicate the comparisons between diffferent meats in it...........it's a 2 part article done on this truely great greyhound participant.
Can you email me a copy as i would like to read it.
[email protected] I must admit i dont feed chicken and the routine blood tests I get all show normal readings but if there's something im missing then it cant hurt to check it out.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 12 Jun 2012 00:48
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Lance Day wrote:
I wouldn't be feedyng chicken mince at all. Cheap crapp.
i find quality chicken neither cheap nor crap , its like all things meat , you get the quality you pay for ,
Keith Lloyd Australia (Verified User) Posts 1326 Dogs 54 / Races 3 12 Jun 2012 01:07
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Darren McKenzie wrote:
If you'd like a copy of the 'DEAKIN' article.........list your email address and I'll send it on.
thanks darren
Darren Murnane Australia (Verified User) Posts 384 Dogs 21 / Races 40 12 Jun 2012 01:19
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In thinking about it I use Advance Kibble which is Chicken based.
I wonder if there is any additional benefit to using Chicken Mince if you are using this kibble - but will check out the article.
Brian Young Australia (Verified User) Posts 987 Dogs 16 / Races 44 12 Jun 2012 01:32
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Lance Day wrote:
I wouldn't be feedyng chicken mince at all. Cheap crapp.
Lance have reared many pups to racing stage on a mixture including chicken mince. Every pup we have reared has won races. City winners and a track record holder. Might of gone better if we hadn't who knows but I do know many who believe the same as you (cheap crap)and a lot of their dogs go worse than ours. I also feed them a lot of fat which is cheaper still but as I say they may go better if I fed them more of the more expensive stuff but when I did in the past they went no better and I guess no worse so it is definitely debateable
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