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Mark Staines
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12 Oct 2023 08:47


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Michael Fitzgerald wrote:

I'm all for staying at Wentworth Park, but I realise there's little we can do to stay on past 2027.

However, perhaps there is one thing we can do to stay on. It's a bargaining chip we have based on the fact that our landlord is asset rich but cash poor.

Before the Wentworth Sporting Complex Land Manager (otherwise known as the Trust) kicks us out when the lease is up, it is imperative that GRNSW stridently seeks repayment of the nearly $6.5 million dollars it loaned to the Trust in 1998 - but which the Trust refuses to repay. One reason for this, I would suggest, is that the Trust doesn't have the money to make the repayment.

A review of the Trust's latest annual report shows that it has total assets of $67,689,000, but this is made up of nearly $64,000,000 in plant, property and equipment (i.e. land/buildings/grandstand etc) and only $3,740,000 in cash or investments. Significantly, the annual report also refers to the loan from GRNSW as a liability.

The Trust makes mention of the GRNSW loan in its annual report in the following manner on page 32;

"As at 30 June 2022 a balance $6,478,000 remained outstanding. As a result of the privatisation of the TAB, certain assets, agreements and rights of the former Racecourse Development Fund were transferred to the Greyhound Racing Authority as the body administering the Industry development Fund. That transfer was made in accordance with the direction published in the Government Gazette with effect 1 July 1998. Due to an administrative restructure, responsibility of the loan is now held with GRNSW. In January 2007 GRNSW requested repayment of the loan. The Land Manager requested that GRNSW convert the status of the loan to a grant.

In July 2015 the Land Manager received Notice from GRNSW in respect of the claim. Based on legal advice the Land Manager has declined in writing any liability in respect of the claim. No response has been received from GRNSW."

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Significantly, a review of the latest GRNSW annual report lists the loan to the Trust as a financial asset, and makes the following comment;

" Loan receivable

Included within financial assets is a receivable of $6,497,681 due from Wentworth Park Sporting Complex Land Manager (WPSCLM) (formerly Wentworth Park Trust). In assessing the accounting treatment of the receivable GRNSW has sought the assistance of its legal consultant to gather evidence to support its view that the loan is a debt instrument within the relevant laws and regulation that affect GRNSW and the WPSCLM. Based on the fact that the loan is recorded in various government documents, including the NSW Gazette No. 100 26 June 1998, as being a repayable loan, those charged with governance have exercised their judgement and determined for financial reporting purposes that the loan is contractual in nature, and it has been treated as a financial asset in accordance with AASB 9 at amortised cost. Whilst GRNSW has determined, at this stage, not to call on the loan until cessation of racing at Wentworth Park, it reserves its right to do so.

GRNSW has also assessed the expected credit loss (ECL) of the receivable, and based on the credit worthiness of the counterparty considers the ECL to be nil."

From my reading of the above, it would appear that;

a) the Trust recognises that it has loan repayable to GRNSW, but doesn't have the money to do so, and has therefore asked GRNSW to now consider it a "grant", and

b) GRNSW still considers the money to be a "repayable loan" that it can call in at any time but recognises the Trust doesn't have the money to do so.

Surely there can be a compromise, and a win/win for both sides.

I suggest that the compromise be that GRNSW doesn't call in the loan on the proviso that our lease on Wentworth Park be extended indefinitely, or at least until a date well into the future.

If nothing else, I think it's something worth considering. There's no point slinking out of Wentworth Park in a couple of years with our tail between our legs when we actually have the landlord by the balls.

Unfortunately the world we live in has changed a lot since the Halcyon days of Greyhound Racing.
It's well overdue for the Greyhound industry in NSW to take control of its own destiny and IMO being a Tenant instead an owner of racing venues has failed dismally.

A centre of excellence in southwest sydney owned by the NSW Greyhound industry is a must do in order for Greyhound Racing to survive in NSW !





Grant Dunphy
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Sydneys south west wouldn't suit me or my fellow Hunter/North West & North Coast trainers just as Hornsby probably wouldn't suit you Mark .

Best to do all in our power to stay at Wendy-We'll never be given anything better or more central to everyone.


Mark Wilcox
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24 Oct 2023 04:32


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More central to everyone what a nightmare richmond is the place knock everything down and start from scratch but we will be talking about this in 2027


Mark Staines
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24 Oct 2023 08:37


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Grant Dunphy wrote:

Sydneys south west wouldn't suit me or my fellow Hunter/North West & North Coast trainers just as Hornsby probably wouldn't suit you Mark .

Best to do all in our power to stay at Wendy-We'll never be given anything better or more central to everyone.

There is no future at W.P. you can kick the can down the road then what ?
The long serving Lord Mayor of Sydney and her inner city Latte sipping friends detest the Greyhound Industry with a passion.

Why can't each Zone North South and West have a "Centre Of Excellence" ?
It's all over bar the shouting at W.P. !!!





Grant Dunphy
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The fact a Latte mob don't like us is hardly a reason to leave.
3 zoned Centres of Excellence is a terrific idea with city prize money at each but
you & I know it's never going to happen.
A compromise would be to have A & B city prize money rotating at 1 chosen track
in each zone all the time & improve those tracks where necessary & keep them in an acceptable level.All should have approx. 300,400,500,600 & 700 Boxes.
The prize money saved from their normal TAB meetings would help to offset the new City prize money & there should be a large compensation for agreeing to vacate Wenty.


Michael Fitzgerald
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28 Oct 2023 00:35


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Grant,

I keep hearing we should get compensation for leaving before our lease is up in four years, but who do you think would be paying that compensation?

It can't be the Wentworth Park trust as they don't have the money, Sydney Council won't pay it because they can just wait until 2027 when we'll be kicked out and the NSW Govt (who would be crucified by voters if they paid us at the same time they are tightening their fiscal belts) doesn't have the funds or appetite for it.

Re-homing difficulties and the (apparent) lack of action/foresight by industry leaders in regards to the location of a new main track are the two things that'll kill our sport.


Mark Staines
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28 Oct 2023 00:53


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There is abundant Crown Land in NSW !

It is blatantly obvious that the Anti stacked governing bodies in NSW are happy to see the
greyhound industry disappear !


Mark Wilcox
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28 Oct 2023 04:27


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Grant come 2027 that will be it at Wenty and we will not see a cent and you can blame the GBOTA for that they could of taken good money a few years back but no as usual they no better .They were afraid of giving up there city licence to some other track rather than thinking of the industry now look where we are how the GRNSW have never pissed them off i will never no,surely they are not going to take us past 2027.


Mark Staines
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28 Oct 2023 07:21


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The NSW GBOTA lost it's Compass two decades ago !


Kevin Martin
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What happening at Wenty after watching last night racing so sad to see.


Mark Donohue
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One letter, one word, one line ah, now I feel a whole lot better :)


Michael Fitzgerald
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Mark Donohue wrote:

One letter, one word, one line ah, now I feel a whole lot better :)

Mark.

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Mark Donohue
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No comments about current status of WP so I wrote something and I feel a whole lot better about writing nothing that takes the conversation nowhere.


Michael Fitzgerald
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In that case, job well done!!!


Mark Donohue
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Is GRNSW going to wait until we leave WP before trying to retrieve their loan? Any reasonable business would commence proceedings promptly.


Michael Fitzgerald
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15 Mar 2024 02:58


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Or use it as a bargaining chip to extend the lease at WP.


Mark Donohue
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14 vacant boxes at WP tonight. What are the issues besides traffic, no extra entertainment, limited dog numbers, trainers not keen to travel as much, location, etc.

Itll improve with big p/m races but this is our premier track! Is the industry travelling as well as it looks?


Mark Staines
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Itll improve with big p/m races but this is our premier track! Is the industry travelling as well as it looks?

The answer is obvious imo !!!

You have 2 governing bodies stacked with ANTI's in NSW, is there light at the end of the tunnel ?




Grant Dunphy
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23 Mar 2024 08:35


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Mark Staines wrote:

Itll improve with big p/m races but this is our premier track! Is the industry travelling as well as it looks?

The answer is obvious imo !!!

You have 2 governing bodies stacked with ANTI's in NSW, is there light at the end of the tunnel ?


I dont think they are LOADED with antis- if we go they go.But they think the antis make up a lot more numbers than they do yet they are probably no more than 5percent of the population- just very vocal- it was Baird using his premiership power in a land grab which was unsuccessful due to voters & the press getting behind us ( not the antis )
Because they completely overestimate the antis they are scared to do certain things that are definitely needed .
1.- Follow on lure for all races
2.- All tracks to have corner starts eliminated over a set timeframe
3.- Breeding incentives same as Queensland be introduced
4.- compulsory 6 monthly hair swab testing for all racing dogs introduced
A wouldnt it be Lovelly


Mark Staines
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1. YES ASAP

2.YES ASAP

3.YES ASAP

4.YES ASAP



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