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Dog Shows SA
Dog showing is fun and dog show people can be very helpful and friendly.

Dog Shows are known as Conformation Shows as dogs are assessed on their conformation to the Breed Standard. The Standard for each breed may be obtained from the ANKC website at
EXTERNAL LINK There are 74 Clubs which conduct Dog Shows either for specific breeds or for All Breeds. Most of the shows are held at David Roche Park, Cromwell Road, Kilburn where the facilities can cater for up to 1,200 dogs and exhibitors.
To participate in showing your dog, you must be a member of Dogs SA or Interstate Canine Control and own a pedigreed dog on the main register. All the relevant information for participating and entering dog shows is published in the magazine posted to you each month as a member of Dogs SA.
There are more than 198 dog breeds recognised by the Australian National Kennel Council which are eligible to be shown in Australia and these are divided into seven groups:

- Group 1 (Toy)
- Group 2 (Terriers)
- Group 3 (Gundogs)
- Group 4 (Hounds)
- Group 5 (Working Dogs)
- Group 6 (Utility)
- Group 7 (Non-Sporting)

These groups generally represent the purpose for which the breed was developed: Toys Companions; Terriers Vermin hunters; Gundogs Working in the field with the hunter; Hounds To find game by scent or sight; Working dogs Used to work livestock; Utility Guarding or carting; Non sporting Multi purpose dogs for other activities.
Judging
The judging procedure may seem complicated but is basically a knock out contest with winners ascending to the next level of competition. By the end of the show there is one winner from the total show entry and that exhibit is the Best In Show
Along the way to this ultimate prize, there are other prestigious awards Best in Group, Runner Up in Group, Best of Breed, Runner-up of Breed and Best in Class.
Each dog is physically examined by the judge and to assess movement is gaited either in a triangle, circle or out and back in a straight line. When all the dogs in the class have been examined, the placings are given.
In each breed, males are shown first, beginning with Baby Puppies and the judging moves up through the classes (age classifications) until all the males have been judged and the Dog challenge (Winner) and Reserve Dog Challenge (Runner Up) are awarded. The judging for the bitches follows with the same judging procedure.
The winning dog and winning bitch then compete for the Best of Breed.
Best of Breed and Challenge Certificates are awarded by the Judge to a maximum of 25 points per show. To obtain an Australian Champion title a dog must accumulate 100 points and the title of Grand Champion is awarded to dogs which accumulate 1,000 points. A Supreme Champion is awarded to dogs which have 1,000 points and awarded 3 All Breeds Best in Show awards or 10 Best in Group awards.
All Best of Breed exhibits are then judged to determine Best in Group and Runner Up in Group. Class judging for the Group then continues, beginning with Best Baby Puppy in Group and works upward through the classes.
The Best in Group winners are then judged for Best in Show and Runner Up in Show. Judging then takes place for Best Baby Puppy In Show;Best Minor Puppy in Show and working up through the classes.
One thing to remember is that you have paid for the judges opinion and each judge may place a different emphasis on the hallmarks and conformation that is required of the Breed Standard. This is what showing is all about and it does not necessarily mean your dog is not a good specimen if it does not win all the time.

For new exhibitors a Breed club show or parade/open show is a very good learning experience as it is a more relaxed atmosphere.
Have fun and enjoy a day with your dogs.

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2. GENERAL
Recently 27-28 August 2016 Australian Greyhound Federation formally GBOTA had a state meeting
in South Australia aligned with the National Sprint Championships. These meetings had four guest
speakers from around the world, clearly highlighting different aspects regarding Greyhound racing.
The biggest issue was wastage. Other major concerns with welfare of greyhound racing, was over
breeding and lack of rehoming for our dogs after racing. Another big factor in our sport is that
Owners and Trainers are time focused with producing, raring, and breaking in of greyhounds for
racing.
This is evident with larger breeding organisations turning over volumes of animals to ascertain the
fastest dogs for the major events. Those greyhounds whom dont meet the criteria are sold or moved
on to other owners and trainers. This keeps the problem with everyone else and not addressing the
issues at hand.
Smaller Owner Trainers are often burdened with the Rehab, welfare, and rehoming of the greyhound
once the greyhound is deemed finished. These trainers have limited training facilities, limited
financial ability and still complete the rehoming of their greyhounds. More events to cater for these
greyhounds would help these trainers kept those dogs racings. This would place pressure on larger
breeders to place litters that dont make their standards.
The following proposal is to try and assist in helping our sport comply with Public perception and
the welfare of our greyhounds. This proposal has the opportunity to reduce wastage, help Alleviate
time focused training, prevent over breeding, and appease the Public and welfare groups into our
future of the sport.
3. OVERVIEW
1a. Owners and Trainers
Business owners all over the world have constantly had to effect change in models to compete on a
national or international level. Our industry should have been no different. It has promised integrity
and welfare for over 20 years. It took a 4 corners episode to bring our great sport to its knees.
Finally, we created a response to public outcry.
Since that report our industry who lacked any significant large changes in the last 20 years has had to
reform overnight. No Major businesses can claim to do what our Industry has done in such a short
time. This has been completed without damaging its reputation or stake holders and continued to
operate.
Queensland owners and trainers have met those requirements and are now wanting to be proactive in
doing more in aligning with Associations. Change is never easy, but necessary to move forward.
Lets also acknowledge that our Owners and Trainers averages ages are over the age of 55, without
computers or up to date technology, have adapted themselves to this demand.



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1b. Greyhound Standards
It was a key focus in latest reports that early wastage was a concerning issue. Dogs born to dogs
named or marked up for Racing, indicated a damming figure for early wastage. Up to 30% of
greyhounds were not named up for a range or reasons. The biggest reason was they didnt meet
racing standard. Greyhounds who were lacking in time at an early age were sent to country tracks or
retired from racing as demand for faster dogs to win feature events became paramount.
1c Racing Cycle of a Greyhound
As demand for faster and stronger greyhounds is essential, so more and more litters are whelped.
Larger raring organisations produce more pups to larger owners in order to produce the fastest dogs
in Australia. Litters are given to larger Owner and Trainers who purchase and sell dogs in the search
for excellence. This cycle moves quickly down to other owners and trainers until the greyhounds
retired from racing.
This is not a new practice in the sport. The major concern is the time frame this occurs. With our
sport being primarily focused on a greyhounds time, owners and trainers determine quickly at an
early age, who to keep, who to sell, regardless of when each litter would develop. This proposal may
help in slowing down this cycle and stem some over breeding issues.
1d Current Grading
Currently we have a grading system that caters for dogs that are primarily performing. Over the last
year we have made some small changes to cater for some of our younger dogs who havent been
placing in a race for a number of starts. Other changes were made for older dogs, Masters . This
event caters for dogs over 42 months of age, however males dogs are often at a clear advantage as
they are stronger and dont endure breeding puppies.
Our current system doesnt have a scope for slower dogs. Often these dogs are relocated or trainers
are asked to take them to other tracks to ascertain form. Border Park located at the Tweed Heads was
a popular place. Recent events in NSW mean that these options will not exist going forward and
these Greyhounds will be forced to be retired from racing.
Creating a better grading system will give all dogs the opportunity to compete at different levels.
This will greatly improve the ratio of dogs whelped to naming up for racing. It should have a flow
on effect as demand for faster greyhounds will subside and over breeding will reduce.
1e Not required Dogs
Currently there is a significant amount of greyhounds who have not placed in a number of starts,
there for are not drawn each week in races. Nominations for a Class 3 grade Sunday Night, always
exceeds the nominations for an event. Sometimes up to a 100 dogs dont get race opportunity.



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These dogs often have to travel to tracks with lower competition in order to get form so they can be
drawn in a field. With extra events and with more variety, we can get more dogs to the tracks and
competing.
4. TRACKS
In Brisbane we only have 2 TAB tracks and 1 Non TAB track. Currently there is racing at Ipswich
and Albion Park, whom each track has events three and four times a week. This proposal once a
fortnight on each track will give all dogs the opportunity to race. Consideration to all events at each
track will have to be monitored as trainers will nominate for events to suit the standard of greyhound
they are in procession off.
In the short term this proposal may reduce racing on both tracks, however give staff at both tracks
plenty of time for preparations of their respective facilities. Feature race days and nights are of
utmost importance to both TAB tracks, so our proposals event times and dates would have to
coincide in with those events.
5. Queenslands Racing Integrity Commission and Racing Queensland
Owner and Trainers have had the perception that these two bodies are provided to address all issues
with Greyhound racing. Most owners trainers think that these bodies should be fighting the Anti
Groups. This is clearly not the role of these two departments. This proposal being put forward is to
help assist these departments understand that Australian Greyhound Federation formerly GBOTA is
prepared to aid these departments with future welfare of greyhound racing into the future. With the
aid of the official Journal (Chase Newspaper), Australian Greyhound Federation, Queensland Racing
Integrity Commission, and Racing Queensland, we can better inform Owners Trainers Breeders into
the future of Greyhound Racing.
6. PROPOSED GRADING
Maiden 1 (7th Grade)
Dogs who havent won a race competed up to 10 starts
Maiden 2 (7th Grade)
Dogs who havent won a race who 5 to 20 starts
Maiden 3 (7th Grade)
Greyhounds who havent won a race 15 plus starts
Novice 1 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have won their first race up to 10 starts
Novice 2 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have only won one race from 5 to 20 starts
Novice 3 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have only won one race from 15 plus starts
5
th Grade 1
Dogs that have only won their maiden Novice only up to 10 starts
Dogs dropping back from 4th Grade events after 3 unplaced runs.
4/5 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
5
th Grade 2
Dogs that have only won their maiden Novice only with 10 plus starts
5
th Grade 3
Dogs that have 10 starts or more in 5th Grade no placings.
4
th Grade
Dogs who recently won their 5th Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 3rd Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
3/4 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
3
h Grade
Dogs who recently won their 4th Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 2nd Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
2/3 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
2
th Grade
Dogs who recently won their 3rd Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 1st Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
1/2 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
1
st Grade 1 (Top Grade)
Dogs that have recently won their 2nd Grade.
Free for All or Best 8 Grade Race as per current Grading.
Masters (over 48 months only
Male races
Female races
Open or Mixed both Male and Female for graders if numbers of nominations is needed.
7. EVENTS
1a Overview
Having new proposed grading means extra events. In this proposal I would like to use Saturday
Ipswich Greyhounds and Sunday Albion Park racing venues. Each Track would create a fortnightly
event.
This would involve a 20 -24 race programme. First 10- 12 races would involve all lower grade racing
which we will call a block. This first block would consist of lower graded dogs racing.
At the completion of the first block, track staff, kennel staff and stewards would complete handovers
and prepare for the 2nd block consisting of another 10 -12 races towards the evening events. Our
feature races would be held as normal.
1b Kennelling Times
1
st Block kennelling 10.20 am to 11.00 am
Race 1 11.40 pm Maiden race 331
Race 2 12.00 pm Maiden race 331
Race 3 -- 12.20 pm Maiden race 331
Race 4 -- 12.40 pm Maiden 395
Race 5 -- 13.00 pm Maiden 520
Race 6 -- 13.20 pm Novice 331
Race 7 -- 13.40 pm Novice 331
Race 8 -- 14.00 pm Novice 395
Race 9 -- 14.20 pm 5th Grade 331
Race 10 -- 14.40 pm 5th Grade 331
Race 11 -- 15.00 pm 5th Grade 395
Race 12 -- 15.20 pm 5th Grade 395
1 hour for cleaning of kennels and changeover of staff, Vet, stewards, and track maintenance.
Block 2
Kennelling Open at 16.25pm and close at 17.05 pm.
Race 1 -- 17.40 pm 5
th Grade 395
Race 2 -- 6.09 pm 5
th Grade 395
Race 3 -- 6.27 pm 5
th Grade 520
Race 4 6.50 pm 5
th Grade 520
Race 5 7.08 pm 4
th Grade 395
Race 6 7.30 pm 4
th Grade 520
Race 7 7.55 pm 3
rd Grade 395
Race 8 8.19 pm 3
rd Grade 520
Race 9 8.40 pm 2
nd Grade or 1st Grade
Race 10 8.57 pm Masters Race
Race 11 9.22 pm if Required
Race 12 9.40 pm if Required



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Here is one more idea sent in by a Member who also wants to end the wastage ...

Chew over some of these idea's....

I don't mind if there is conjecture or Debate so any idea and Question is very relevant in todays climate ...

2. GENERAL
Recently 27-28 August 2016 Australian Greyhound Federation formally GBOTA had a state meeting
in South Australia aligned with the National Sprint Championships. These meetings had four guest
speakers from around the world, clearly highlighting different aspects regarding Greyhound racing.
The biggest issue was wastage. Other major concerns with welfare of greyhound racing, was over
breeding and lack of rehoming for our dogs after racing. Another big factor in our sport is that
Owners and Trainers are time focused with producing, raring, and breaking in of greyhounds for
racing.
This is evident with larger breeding organisations turning over volumes of animals to ascertain the
fastest dogs for the major events. Those greyhounds whom dont meet the criteria are sold or moved
on to other owners and trainers. This keeps the problem with everyone else and not addressing the
issues at hand.
Smaller Owner Trainers are often burdened with the Rehab, welfare, and rehoming of the greyhound
once the greyhound is deemed finished. These trainers have limited training facilities, limited
financial ability and still complete the rehoming of their greyhounds. More events to cater for these
greyhounds would help these trainers kept those dogs racings. This would place pressure on larger
breeders to place litters that dont make their standards.
The following proposal is to try and assist in helping our sport comply with Public perception and
the welfare of our greyhounds. This proposal has the opportunity to reduce wastage, help Alleviate
time focused training, prevent over breeding, and appease the Public and welfare groups into our
future of the sport.
3. OVERVIEW
1a. Owners and Trainers
Business owners all over the world have constantly had to effect change in models to compete on a
national or international level. Our industry should have been no different. It has promised integrity
and welfare for over 20 years. It took a 4 corners episode to bring our great sport to its knees.
Finally, we created a response to public outcry.
Since that report our industry who lacked any significant large changes in the last 20 years has had to
reform overnight. No Major businesses can claim to do what our Industry has done in such a short
time. This has been completed without damaging its reputation or stake holders and continued to
operate.
Queensland owners and trainers have met those requirements and are now wanting to be proactive in
doing more in aligning with Associations. Change is never easy, but necessary to move forward.
Lets also acknowledge that our Owners and Trainers averages ages are over the age of 55, without
computers or up to date technology, have adapted themselves to this demand.



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8. FUNDING
Betting organisations would also have to approve of changes going forward. UBET would provide
some funding for extra staff and prizemoney for extra events. It would be natural that Block 1
prizemoney would be less than the feature races Block 2 in the evening. Further discussions with
State Government, UBET, and Racing Queensland can discuss further funding in the future.
9. OVER BREEDING
Currently this greyhound industry has been highlighted to over breeding. There was mention of
bonds on puppies. This would be paid by breeders and carried through the life of the greyhound.
Although on paper this seems logical, however we dont want breeding to stop and this financial
burden to smaller breeders would be damming. By creating more events, owners and Trainers can
keep their dogs for all grades. This should stem the flow of over breeding throughout the industry
naturally.
10. WELFARE
This proposal is trying to make it a level playing field also for our greyhounds. Giving our industry
more variety in racing, gives people the chance to see their dogs in action. More dogs in boxes and
racing, means our greyhounds racing for longer. Rehoming agencies such as the GAP Programme
with have less pressure. Anti-racing groups will see that our sport isnt all about money and
excellence.
11. Conclusion:
This proposal is addressing the following key issues we face in the Greyhound industry:
Over Breeding.
Wastage
Time Orientated racing of Greyhounds
Maidens and Graded dogs not getting to race
Creating Longevity in our dogs career
Events and kennelling.
Stem rehoming of greyhounds
QRIC, RQ, AFG, supported by Owner Trainers working together and developing a future for
Greyhound racing.
Australian Greyhound Federation is working hard to help QRIC and RQ develop ideas into the future
of our sport. Our organisation will continue to assist and address issues to make working with the
controlling bodies successful going forward into our Greyhound Racing future.

PS

I did not put this together and it was the 80% Club who are behind every push we can to ensure the LONGEVITY and Viability of our great sport ...

These idea's come from you me and the outside world and we have many who don't even own a Greyhound who are behind us all so please

EDUCATE Don't dictate ...



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CONSUMER AFFAIRS VICTORIA
Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012

Greyhound ------ --------- of Australia
Articles of Association

Associations Incorporation Reform Regulations 2012
Part 3
TABLE OF PROVISIONS
Regulation Page
PART 1PRELIMINARY 3
1 Name 3
2 Purposes 3
3 Financial year 3
4 Definitions 3
PART 2POWERS OF ASSOCIATION 4
5 Powers of Association 4
6 Not for profit organisation 4
PART 3MEMBERS, DISCIPLINARY PROCEDURES AND GRIEVANCES 4
Division 1Membership 4
7 Minimum number of members 4
8 Who is eligible to be a member 5
9 Application for membership 5
10 Consideration of application 5
11 New membership 5
12 Annual subscription and fee on joining 5
13 General rights of members 6
14 Associate members 6
15 Rights not transferable 6
16 Ceasing membership 6
17 Resigning as a member 6
18 Register of members 7
Division 2Disciplinary action 7
19 Grounds for taking disciplinary action 7
20 Disciplinary subcommittee 7
21 Notice to member 7
22 Decision of subcommittee 8
23 Appeal rights 8
24 Conduct of disciplinary appeal meeting 9
Division 3Grievance procedure 9
25 Application 9
26 Parties must attempt to resolve the dispute 9
27 Appointment of mediator 9
28 Mediation process 10
29 Failure to resolve dispute by mediation 10
PART 4GENERAL MEETINGS OF THE ASSOCIATION 10
30 Annual general meetings 10
31 Special general meetings 11
32 Special general meeting held at request of members 11
33 Notice of general meetings 11
34 Proxies 12
35 Use of technology 12
36 Quorum at general meetings 12
37 Adjournment of general meeting 13
38 Voting at general meeting 13
39 Special resolutions 13
40 Determining whether resolution carried 14
41 Minutes of general meeting 14
PART 5COMMITTEE 14
Division 1Powers of Committee 14
42 Role and powers 14
43 Delegation 15
Division 2Composition of Committee and duties of members 15
44 Composition of Committee 15
45 General Duties 15
46 President and Vice-President 16
47 Secretary 16
48 Treasurer 16
Division 3Election of Committee members and tenure of office 17
49 Who is eligible to be a Committee member 17
50 Positions to be declared vacant 17
51 Nominations 17
52 Election of President etc. 17
53 Election of ordinary members 17
54 Ballot 18
55 Term of office 18
56 Vacation of office 19
57 Filling casual vacancies 19
Division 4Meetings of Committee 19
58 Meetings of Committee 19
59 Notice of meetings 20
60 Urgent meetings 20
61 Procedure and order of business 20
62 Use of technology 20
63 Quorum 20
64 Voting 20
65 Conflict of interest 21
66 Minutes of meeting 21
67 Leave of absence 21
PART 6FINANCIAL MATTERS 21
68 Source of funds 21
69 Management of funds 22
70 Financial records 22
71 Financial statements 22
PART 7GENERAL MATTERS 22
72 Common seal 22
73 Registered address 23
74 Notice requirements 23
75 Custody and inspection of books and records 23
76 Winding up and cancellation 24
77 Alteration of Rules 24
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PART 1PRELIMINARY
1 Name
The name of the incorporated association is Greyhound ----- ---------of Australia Incorporated, which may be referred to in an abbreviated form as GIAA.
2 Purposes
The purposes of the association are to:
(a) establish and provide a national focus and voice for owners, breeders and trainers of racing greyhounds;
(b) represent racing greyhound owners, breeders and trainers in matters of national interest;
(c) promote and share best practice procedures and behaviours within the industry;
(d) gather and share information from and between members, to ensure that greyhound racing remains viable and sustainable in the States and Territories where it is authorised and regulated; and
(e) other purposes which may from time to time be authorised by the Members, consistent with the purposes outlined above.
3 Financial year
The financial year of the Association is each period of 12 months ending on 30 June.
4 Definitions
In these Rules
absolute majority, of the Committee, means a majority of the committee members currently holding office and entitled to vote at the time (as distinct from a majority of committee members present at a committee meeting);
associate member means a member referred to in rule 14(1);
Chairperson, of a general meeting or committee meeting, means the person chairing the meeting as required under rule 46;
Committee means the Committee having management of the business of the Association;
committee meeting means a meeting of the Committee held in accordance with these Rules;
committee member means a member of the Committee elected or appointed under Division 3 of Part 5;
disciplinary appeal meeting means a meeting of the members of the Association convened under rule 23(3);
disciplinary meeting means a meeting of the Committee convened for the purposes of rule 22;
disciplinary subcommittee means the subcommittee appointed under rule 20;
financial year means the 12 month period specified in rule 3;
general meeting means a general meeting of the members of the Association convened in accordance with Part 4 and includes an annual general meeting, a special general meeting and a disciplinary appeal meeting;
meeting means a properly authorised and correctly notified assembly of full and associate members convened by the Committee or otherwise required by the Act, and may include virtual meetings with resolutions determined by secure online voting;
member means a member of the Association;
member entitled to vote means a member who under rule 13(2) is entitled to vote at a general meeting;
special resolution means a resolution that requires not less than three-quarters of the members voting at a general meeting, whether in person or by proxy, to vote in favour of the resolution;
the Act means the Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012 and includes any regulations made under that Act;
the Registrar means the Registrar of Incorporated Associations.

PART 2POWERS OF ASSOCIATION
5 Powers of Association
(1) Subject to the Act, the Association has power to do all things incidental or conducive to achieve its purposes.
(2) Without limiting subrule (1), the Association may
(a) open and operate accounts with financial institutions;
(b) invest its money in any security in which trust monies may lawfully be invested;
(c) raise and borrow money on any terms and in any manner as it thinks fit;
(d) secure the repayment of money raised or borrowed, or the payment of a debt or liability;
(e) appoint agents to transact business on its behalf;
(f) enter into any other contract it considers necessary or desirable.
(3) The Association may only exercise its powers and use its income and assets (including any surplus) for its purposes.
6 Not for profit organisation
(1) The Association must not distribute any surplus, income or assets directly or indirectly to its members.
(2) Subrule (1) does not prevent the Association from paying a member
(a) reimbursement for expenses properly incurred by the member; or
(b) for goods or services provided by the member
if this is done in good faith on terms no more favourable than if the member was not a member.





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PART 3MEMBERS, DISCIPLINARY PROCEDURES AND GRIEVANCES
Division 1Membership
7 Minimum number of members
The Association must have at least 5 members.
8 Who is eligible to be a member
Any person who supports the purposes of the Association is eligible for membership.
9 Application for membership
(1) To apply to become a member of the Association, a person must submit a written application to a committee member stating that the person
(a) wishes to become a full or associate member of the Association; and
(b) supports the purposes of the Association; and
(c) agrees to comply with these Rules.
(2) The application
(a) must be signed by the applicant;
(b) must provide proof of the applicants role as an owner, breeder and/or trainer of racing greyhounds (for full membership), or indicate that the applicant is seeking associate membership; and
(b) must be accompanied by the joining fee.
10 Consideration of application
(1) As soon as practicable after an application for membership is received, the Committee must decide by resolution whether to accept or reject the application.
(2) The Committee must notify the applicant in writing of its decision as soon as practicable after the decision is made.
(3) If the Committee rejects the application, it must return any money accompanying the application to the applicant.
(4) No reason need be given for the rejection of an application
(5) These powers [and those under rule 11] may be exercised by the Secretary or a Membership Officer duly appointed by the Committee to exercise these powers between Committee meetings, subject to reporting requirements determined by the Committee.
(6) The Committee may elect to establish an online membership register which allows applications to be lodged, and accepted or rejected, by email or other communication.
11 New membership
(1) If an application for membership is approved by the Committee
(a) the resolution to accept the membership must be recorded in the minutes of the committee meeting; and
(b) the Secretary must, as soon as practicable, enter the name and address of the new member, and the date of becoming a member, in the register of members.
(2) A person becomes a member of the Association and, subject to rule 13(2), is entitled to exercise his or her rights of membership from the date, whichever is the later, on which
(a) the Committee approves the person's membership; or
(b) the person pays the joining fee.
(3) In the event that the Committee establishes an online membership register as authorised by rule 10(6)
(a) membership entitlements may be exercised from the date, whichever is the later, on which the application is approved and the fee is transferred to the Associations relevant financial account;
(b) rule 11(1) is satisfied by the electronic record of membership subject to the online register containing the name, address and date of becoming a member; and
(c) the Committee consider any applications rejected by the Secretary and/or Membership officer, subject to rule 10(4).
12 Annual subscription and fee on joining
(1) At each annual general meeting, the Association must determine
(a) the amount of the annual subscription (if any) for the following financial year; and
(b) the date for payment of the annual subscription.
(2) The Association may determine that a lower annual subscription is payable by associate members.
(3) At the establishment date of the Association, the fee for full membership shall be $25 per annum, and the fee for associate member shall be $10.
(3) The Association may determine that any new member who joins after the start of a financial year must, for that financial year, pay a fee equal to
(a) the full annual subscription; or
(b) a pro rata annual subscription based on the remaining part of the financial year; or
(c) a fixed amount determined from time to time by the Association.
(4) The rights of a member (including the right to vote) who has not paid the annual subscription by the due date are suspended until the subscription is paid.
13 General rights of members
(1) A member of the Association who is entitled to vote has the right
(a) to receive notice of general meetings and of proposed special resolutions in the manner and time prescribed by these Rules; and
(b) to submit items of business for consideration at a general meeting; and
(c) to attend and be heard at general meetings; and
(d) to vote at a general meeting; and
(e) to have access to the minutes of general meetings and other documents of the Association as provided under rule 75; and
(f) to inspect the register of members.
(2) A member is entitled to vote if
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(b) more than 10 business days have passed since he or she became a member of the Association; and
(c) the member's membership rights are not suspended for any reason.
14 Associate members
(1) Associate members of the Association include
(a) any members under the age of 15 years;
(b) any members who are not owners, breeders or trainers of racing greyhounds; and
(c) any other category of member as determined by special resolution at a general meeting.
(2) An associate member must not vote but may have other rights as determined by the Committee or by resolution at a general meeting.
15 Rights not transferable
The rights of a member are not transferable and end when membership ceases.
16 Ceasing membership
(1) The membership of a person ceases on resignation, expulsion or death.
(2) If a person ceases to be a member of the Association, the Secretary or Membership Officer must, as soon as practicable, enter the date the person ceased to be a member in the register of members.
17 Resigning as a member
(1) A member may resign by notice in writing given to the Association.
(2) A member is taken to have resigned if
(a) the member's annual subscription is more than 12 months in arrears; or
(b) where no annual subscription is payable
(i) the Secretary or Membership Officer has made a written request to the member to confirm that he or she wishes to remain a member; and
(ii) the member has not, within 3 months after receiving that request, confirmed in writing that he or she wishes to remain a member.
18 Register of members
(1) The Secretary must keep and maintain a register of members that includes
(a) for each current member
(i) the member's name;
(ii) the address for notice last given by the member;
(iii) the date of becoming a member;
(iv) if the member is an associate member, a note to that effect;
(v) any other information determined by the Committee; and
(b) for each former member, the date of ceasing to be a member.
(2) Any member may, at a reasonable time and free of charge, inspect the register of members.

Division 2Disciplinary action
19 Grounds for taking disciplinary action
The Association may take disciplinary action against a member in accordance with this Division if it is determined that the member
(a) has failed to comply with these Rules; or
(b) refuses to support the purposes of the Association; or
(c) has engaged in conduct prejudicial to the Association.
20 Disciplinary subcommittee
(1) If the Committee is satisfied that there are sufficient grounds for taking disciplinary action against a member, the Committee must appoint a disciplinary subcommittee to hear the matter and determine what action, if any, to take against the member.
(2) The members of the disciplinary subcommittee
(a) may be Committee members, members of the Association or anyone else; but
(b) must not be biased against, or in favour of, the member concerned.
21 Notice to member
(1) Before disciplinary action is taken against a member, the Secretary must give written notice to the member
(a) stating that the Association proposes to take disciplinary action against the member; and
(b) stating the grounds for the proposed disciplinary action; and
(c) specifying the date, place and time of the meeting at which the disciplinary subcommittee intends to consider the disciplinary action (the disciplinary meeting); and
(d) advising the member that he or she may do one or both of the following
(i) attend the disciplinary meeting and address the disciplinary subcommittee at that meeting;
(ii) give a written statement to the disciplinary subcommittee at any time before the disciplinary meeting; and
(e) setting out the member's appeal rights under rule 23.
(2) The notice must be given no earlier than 28 days, and no later than 14 days, before the disciplinary meeting is held.
22 Decision of subcommittee
(1) At the disciplinary meeting, the disciplinary subcommittee must
(a) give the member an opportunity to be heard; and
(b) consider any written statement submitted by the member.
(2) After complying with subrule (1), the disciplinary subcommittee may
(a) take no further action against the member; or
(b) subject to subrule (3)
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(ii) suspend the membership rights of the member for a specified period; or
(iii) expel the member from the Association.
(3) The disciplinary subcommittee may not fine the member.
(4) The suspension of membership rights or the expulsion of a member by the disciplinary subcommittee under this rule takes effect immediately after the vote is passed.
23 Appeal rights
(1) A person whose membership rights have been suspended or who has been expelled from the Association under rule 22 may give notice to the effect that he or she wishes to appeal against the suspension or expulsion.
(2) The notice must be in writing and given
(a) to the disciplinary subcommittee immediately after the vote to suspend or expel the person is taken; or
(b) to the Secretary not later than 48 hours after the vote.
(3) If a person has given notice under subrule (2), a disciplinary appeal meeting must be convened by the Committee as soon as practicable, but in any event not later than 21 days, after the notice is received.
(4) Notice of the disciplinary appeal meeting must be given to each member of the Association who is entitled to vote as soon as practicable and must
(a) specify the date, time and place of the meeting; and
(b) state
(i) the name of the person against whom the disciplinary action has been taken; and
(ii) the grounds for taking that action; and
(iii) that at the disciplinary appeal meeting the members present must vote on whether the decision to suspend or expel the person should be upheld or revoked.
24 Conduct of disciplinary appeal meeting
(1) At a disciplinary appeal meeting
(a) no business other than the question of the appeal may be conducted; and
(b) the Committee must state the grounds for suspending or expelling the member and the reasons for taking that action; and
(c) the person whose membership has been suspended or who has been expelled must be given an opportunity to be heard.
(2) After complying with subrule (1), the members present and entitled to vote at the meeting must vote by secret ballot on the question of whether the decision to suspend or expel the person should be upheld or revoked.
(3) A member may not vote by proxy at the meeting.
(4) The decision is upheld if not less than three quarters of the members voting at the meeting vote in favour of the decision.

Division 3Grievance procedure
25 Application
(1) The grievance procedure set out in this Division applies to disputes under these Rules between
(a) a member and another member;
(b) a member and the Committee;
(c) a member and the Association.
(2) A member must not initiate a grievance procedure in relation to a matter that is the subject of a disciplinary procedure until the disciplinary procedure has been completed.

26 Parties must attempt to resolve the dispute
The parties to a dispute must attempt to resolve the dispute between themselves within 14 days of the dispute coming to the attention of each party.
27 Appointment of mediator
(1) If the parties to a dispute are unable to resolve the dispute between themselves within the time required by rule 26, the parties must within 10 days
(a) notify the Committee of the dispute; and
(b) agree to or request the appointment of a mediator; and
(c) attempt in good faith to settle the dispute by mediation.
(2) The mediator must be
(a) a person chosen by agreement between the parties; or
(b) in the absence of agreement
(i) if the dispute is between a member and another membera person appointed by the Committee; or
(ii) if the dispute is between a member and the Committee or the Associationa person appointed or employed by the Dispute Settlement Centre of Victoria.
(3) A mediator appointed by the Committee may be a member or former member of the Association but in any case must not be a person who
(a) has a personal interest in the dispute; or
(b) is biased in favour of or against any party.
28 Mediation process
(1) The mediator to the dispute, in conducting the mediation, must
(a) give each party every opportunity to be heard; and
(b) allow due consideration by all parties of any written statement submitted by any party; and
(c) ensure that natural justice is accorded to the parties throughout the mediation process.
(2) The mediator must not determine the dispute.

Here is just a start of a new Group a New Constitution that is many pages so i have spammed it all today so i expect the purists out there to pick things apart and that's great do so ...

This is just one more thing done by OUTSIDE INTERESTS ..

We have smart people who know how to get the job done in a competent manner and in a very efficient way and it is these people that we need to be looking at to bring us out of the every DEEPENING HOLE we are all falling INTO

PS
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This is all really good stuff Kevin.

I would urge anyone who usually skips over your rants, like I used to do, to actually take the time to read this and take it all in.

JQ



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ron brook wrote:

Kevin thanks for your response and input. It's true Western society has issues about other cultures as I am sure that other cultures can't come to grips with how we live.Having said that if Western society feels so strongly about dog being Mans best friend why do we then need RSPCA shelters so has Man in some respects grown tired of Dog. I know this post is about rehoming and perhaps somewhere else we need to talk about Wastage not only within our structure but society in general. We have collection bins in some states for the recycling of plastic and glass SO why can't we recycle. Here is another avenue to think about . What happens to the RSPCA wastage , does it go to land fill or do we still have incinerators like in the old days. Whatever the case there is another market out there for fertilisers such as Blood and Bone. You talk about the blood banks taking hundreds a year our problem is bigger than that and if any of us think that every retired greyhound will find a home when it's racing life or for any other reason then we are deluding ourselves.

Ron, we used to have backpackers stay at our house every Summer.
In the end we refused to accept English, Irish or French because they were all pissheads and potheads who stole stuff.
But we had no hesitation accepting Asians, mostly from Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Japan. They are extremely respectful and clean. Probably because they had all done 2 years compulsory service in their countries military.
They all could not believe that we ate Kangaroo. Even after I explained that Kangaroo, along with Goat, is the cleanest meat in Australia, because they are not farmed and not fattened up with old storage wheat before going to the slaughterhouse.
Some of them ate dog in their home countries. Most did not.
One guy told me his Father was a dog butcher and this was a very esteemed position. They only ate the dog on ceremonial occasions.
It was a running joke in our house that a greyhound would be seen as a meal fit for a King, whereas our Fox Terrier would only be enough for a lonely drunk on the street.
Of course, if anyone put a proposal forward that we offer our retired dogs to the Asian communities in our country, we would be shot down in flames.
If the Chinese community came forward with a blank cheque and suggested it though?????

Ron, I have spent time in Ethiopia.
They do not eat animals like we do. Yet I have seen some of the most horrific living conditions for animals over there. I saw a Horse with its front legs tied together and tethered to a tree, standing in a pile of its own shit that covered its back legs.
My friends who went to Cambodia watched an engagement ceremony where a dog was tied to the back of a motorbike and dragged around a paddock to its death. Then eaten.
Chinese restaurants have live monkeys tied up with their head sticking through a hole in the table, they smack it with a hammer until its dead then eat its brains warm.
The world is a sick place.
We in Australia have animal welfare standards that are above and beyond every other country on Earth.
And we in the greyhound industry, have animal welfare standards that are above and beyond every other animal industry in this country.

I have no problem with my beloved dog being eaten when it has passed.
I wouldn't care if someone ate me when I was dead.

How though, do we ensure that people aren't breeding for the table?
Because I would vehemently oppose that. And I dont think I've ever used the word 'vehemently' before so I must be serious....


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Kevin Wright wrote:

6. PROPOSED GRADING
Maiden 1 (7th Grade)
Dogs who havent won a race competed up to 10 starts
Maiden 2 (7th Grade)
Dogs who havent won a race who 5 to 20 starts
Maiden 3 (7th Grade)
Greyhounds who havent won a race 15 plus starts
Novice 1 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have won their first race up to 10 starts
Novice 2 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have only won one race from 5 to 20 starts
Novice 3 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have only won one race from 15 plus starts
5
th Grade 1
Dogs that have only won their maiden Novice only up to 10 starts
Dogs dropping back from 4th Grade events after 3 unplaced runs.
4/5 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
5
th Grade 2
Dogs that have only won their maiden Novice only with 10 plus starts
5
th Grade 3
Dogs that have 10 starts or more in 5th Grade no placings.
4
th Grade
Dogs who recently won their 5th Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 3rd Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
3/4 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
3
h Grade
Dogs who recently won their 4th Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 2nd Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
2/3 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
2
th Grade
Dogs who recently won their 3rd Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 1st Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
1/2 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
1
st Grade 1 (Top Grade)
Dogs that have recently won their 2nd Grade.
Free for All or Best 8 Grade Race as per current Grading.
Masters (over 48 months only
Male races
Female races
Open or Mixed both Male and Female for graders if numbers of nominations is needed.
7. EVENTS
1a Overview
Having new proposed grading means extra events. In this proposal I would like to use Saturday
Ipswich Greyhounds and Sunday Albion Park racing venues. Each Track would create a fortnightly
event.
This would involve a 20 -24 race programme. First 10- 12 races would involve all lower grade racing
which we will call a block. This first block would consist of lower graded dogs racing.
At the completion of the first block, track staff, kennel staff and stewards would complete handovers
and prepare for the 2nd block consisting of another 10 -12 races towards the evening events. Our
feature races would be held as normal.
1b Kennelling Times
1
st Block kennelling 10.20 am to 11.00 am
Race 1 11.40 pm Maiden race 331
Race 2 12.00 pm Maiden race 331
Race 3 -- 12.20 pm Maiden race 331
Race 4 -- 12.40 pm Maiden 395
Race 5 -- 13.00 pm Maiden 520
Race 6 -- 13.20 pm Novice 331
Race 7 -- 13.40 pm Novice 331
Race 8 -- 14.00 pm Novice 395
Race 9 -- 14.20 pm 5th Grade 331
Race 10 -- 14.40 pm 5th Grade 331
Race 11 -- 15.00 pm 5th Grade 395
Race 12 -- 15.20 pm 5th Grade 395
1 hour for cleaning of kennels and changeover of staff, Vet, stewards, and track maintenance.
Block 2
Kennelling Open at 16.25pm and close at 17.05 pm.
Race 1 -- 17.40 pm 5
th Grade 395
Race 2 -- 6.09 pm 5
th Grade 395
Race 3 -- 6.27 pm 5
th Grade 520
Race 4 6.50 pm 5
th Grade 520
Race 5 7.08 pm 4
th Grade 395
Race 6 7.30 pm 4
th Grade 520
Race 7 7.55 pm 3
rd Grade 395
Race 8 8.19 pm 3
rd Grade 520
Race 9 8.40 pm 2
nd Grade or 1st Grade
Race 10 8.57 pm Masters Race
Race 11 9.22 pm if Required
Race 12 9.40 pm if Required

This is a concept I would back whole heartedly. This concept caters for all levels of dogs and with a reduced breeding utlook would more than for fill a need that has been missing for a long time.
This concept would also be a concept I feel punters would back greatly. It would make things far clearer for them and would also help trainers and careers of greyhounds. The concept would I feel at a minimum allow most dogs to have maybe 3-4 career wins over a 40 start career.

Hopefully this is something racing administrators look at.

As far as your "fun day" idea, fantastic but this should be facilitated by the GAP's of the states and as such funding would be lesser and as far as prizes I think most average joes would be chuffed to get a 3kg bag of dog food which hopefully could be done via sponsorship.

Hopefully GAP's and other adoption programs/people are help more greatly, I do see this happening at the cost of prize monies which I am sure most big trainers will not be happy about.



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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

This is all really good stuff Kevin.

I would urge anyone who usually skips over your rants, like I used to do, to actually take the time to read this and take it all in.

JQ


Hey JQ Thanks for the head explosion

Hopefully by displaying what we can do then i hope people can use some of it or part of it to further branch out and seek some CONTROL for us all before it's all too late

unlike some mate i have a thick skin these days and i cop it on the chin but i don't ever walk away from a WAR ...

I also had an make a simple stand in my life and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and I hope people start TALKING and discussing this at a greater level and by the amount of emails and messages i have had so far i don't think i am to far off the money ..
If my head falls then so be it but i TRIED to make u all aware because i speak the 100% TRUTH or so i think it is the Truth..LOL

but thats all for you to either say YES OR NO because it is OUR INDUSTRY at stake now so we all must show some fight or we will dictated to and controlled in such a way it will make it impossible for HOBBY TRAINERS AND OWNERS to exist in the future ..

I do hear talk and debate with people and this has to be a very good thing for us all and we need this kind of topics and debates to continue because we all do care in our own way about the industry so i know what i suggest is not for everyone and that is fine as well but you must read what i have posted and then make up your own minds but there will come a day when all of the debate and conjecture will mean nothing because we will control nothing so if thats what people want to do then OK i will go along for the ride and then i will say I TOLD YOU SO ....lol



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brad napper wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

6. PROPOSED GRADING
Maiden 1 (7th Grade)
Dogs who havent won a race competed up to 10 starts
Maiden 2 (7th Grade)
Dogs who havent won a race who 5 to 20 starts
Maiden 3 (7th Grade)
Greyhounds who havent won a race 15 plus starts
Novice 1 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have won their first race up to 10 starts
Novice 2 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have only won one race from 5 to 20 starts
Novice 3 (6th Grade)
Dogs that have only won one race from 15 plus starts
5
th Grade 1
Dogs that have only won their maiden Novice only up to 10 starts
Dogs dropping back from 4th Grade events after 3 unplaced runs.
4/5 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
5
th Grade 2
Dogs that have only won their maiden Novice only with 10 plus starts
5
th Grade 3
Dogs that have 10 starts or more in 5th Grade no placings.
4
th Grade
Dogs who recently won their 5th Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 3rd Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
3/4 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
3
h Grade
Dogs who recently won their 4th Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 2nd Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
2/3 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
2
th Grade
Dogs who recently won their 3rd Grade.
Dogs dropping back from 1st Grade events after 3 unplaced runs
1/2 Grade events for graders to use if number of dogs needed for nominations.
1
st Grade 1 (Top Grade)
Dogs that have recently won their 2nd Grade.
Free for All or Best 8 Grade Race as per current Grading.
Masters (over 48 months only
Male races
Female races
Open or Mixed both Male and Female for graders if numbers of nominations is needed.
7. EVENTS
1a Overview
Having new proposed grading means extra events. In this proposal I would like to use Saturday
Ipswich Greyhounds and Sunday Albion Park racing venues. Each Track would create a fortnightly
event.
This would involve a 20 -24 race programme. First 10- 12 races would involve all lower grade racing
which we will call a block. This first block would consist of lower graded dogs racing.
At the completion of the first block, track staff, kennel staff and stewards would complete handovers
and prepare for the 2nd block consisting of another 10 -12 races towards the evening events. Our
feature races would be held as normal.
1b Kennelling Times
1
st Block kennelling 10.20 am to 11.00 am
Race 1 11.40 pm Maiden race 331
Race 2 12.00 pm Maiden race 331
Race 3 -- 12.20 pm Maiden race 331
Race 4 -- 12.40 pm Maiden 395
Race 5 -- 13.00 pm Maiden 520
Race 6 -- 13.20 pm Novice 331
Race 7 -- 13.40 pm Novice 331
Race 8 -- 14.00 pm Novice 395
Race 9 -- 14.20 pm 5th Grade 331
Race 10 -- 14.40 pm 5th Grade 331
Race 11 -- 15.00 pm 5th Grade 395
Race 12 -- 15.20 pm 5th Grade 395
1 hour for cleaning of kennels and changeover of staff, Vet, stewards, and track maintenance.
Block 2
Kennelling Open at 16.25pm and close at 17.05 pm.
Race 1 -- 17.40 pm 5
th Grade 395
Race 2 -- 6.09 pm 5
th Grade 395
Race 3 -- 6.27 pm 5
th Grade 520
Race 4 6.50 pm 5
th Grade 520
Race 5 7.08 pm 4
th Grade 395
Race 6 7.30 pm 4
th Grade 520
Race 7 7.55 pm 3
rd Grade 395
Race 8 8.19 pm 3
rd Grade 520
Race 9 8.40 pm 2
nd Grade or 1st Grade
Race 10 8.57 pm Masters Race
Race 11 9.22 pm if Required
Race 12 9.40 pm if Required

This is a concept I would back whole heartedly. This concept caters for all levels of dogs and with a reduced breeding utlook would more than for fill a need that has been missing for a long time.
This concept would also be a concept I feel punters would back greatly. It would make things far clearer for them and would also help trainers and careers of greyhounds. The concept would I feel at a minimum allow most dogs to have maybe 3-4 career wins over a 40 start career.

Hopefully this is something racing administrators look at.

As far as your "fun day" idea, fantastic but this should be facilitated by the GAP's of the states and as such funding would be lesser and as far as prizes I think most average joes would be chuffed to get a 3kg bag of dog food which hopefully could be done via sponsorship.

Hopefully GAP's and other adoption programs/people are help more greatly, I do see this happening at the cost of prize monies which I am sure most big trainers will not be happy about.


Brad i am very happy that you also see the value is this kind of Grading system and this was sent to me by a Husband and Wife who spent many hours puting it together and like you i feel this is a fantasic idea and this kind of IDEA must be serusily looked at by each State Greyhound controling body .....

As i keep saying we have some the brightest and most intelligent minds that are part of our Members and this just goes to show you don't need to spend millions making something that already exists and even if they use a small part of it to help them along then i feel this is very worthy of copy paste and sharing and please do SHARE AWAY ...

Please EMAIL AWAY ....This concept to as many people as you can .....This must get some air time because it shows a very clear path to a future we do not have today for our Hounds ...

The past is the past but we must still make our future together ..and it is not over yet ...

We are all witness to the events unfolding before our eyes but many still have got on those rose coloured glasses on so we must ensure we push on or we will be wiped out ..

James PS
I will share a funny story with you and it happened the other day as ii stood in the rain and cold to hand out HOW TO =VOTE CARDS for about 7 hours straight so you could imagine the disdain and comment these poor people had to endure all DAY from me..lol..

I stood for the little bloke who had no chance at all but he was a great person with a great heart and he had his young family born in Australia and he was the only ASIAN candidate MinWin Wu ....

and i had his signs on my front lawn also on display for a few weeks .

Why did i help this little bloke try to reach out to the community ....

Because he was the only one who replied back to me that HE SUPPORTED GREYHOUND RACING and being part of Sandown race cource the Dandenong shire be heavily backed with as much support as i can ...

What i learned was that i enjoyed pissing people off all day.and this maybe is a very special gift i have .lol

I will now enjoy doing this every time an election comes around for the underdog because he also supports us all..

The funny bit about this is that he gave me two xxx large tshirts ASIAN SIZES

Lesson here is do not buy Asian size XXX large as it is medium to any other person and Mr WU made note of getting Asian sizes xxxxx Large next time for me ...Lol





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Six years since this topic started
Many long passionate posts. Are we any closer to improving rehoming greyhounds ?



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Steve Bennie wrote:

Rehoming of greyhounds has be come a political football for the RSPCA when they are under pressure they can't wait to bring up the grey's and how many are put down, it's just lies like the multi million dollar report that Baird put to the people of NSW and spent millions of dollars of tax payers money trying to con the people of NSW with advertising ALL ABOUT LIES.
In Maitlnd the RSPCA rutherford were begging people to adopt a pet in January and February 2016.
They were trying to charge $350.00 for dogs and less for cats, money money money.
By the end of February 2016 they were giving them away.
Or putting them down.
There are millions of cats and dogs out there with NO MICRO CHIPS on them and breeding all the time.
What is stopping the RSPCA, ANIMAL WELFARE, AND THE GREENS from doing something about it,
I will tell you why because the government runs the greyhounds and it's easy for these grubs to get money out of BAIRD than it is Joe Blogs.
Over 5000 cats and dogs went through the RSPCA in the first three months of 2016 in maitland most put to sleep.
Just remember that's only Maitland, God only knows what go's on in BAIRD'S back yard [Sydney] come on RSPCA come clean and let NSW know how many animals you killed last year.

I think that is a great post from Steve

Blunt and to the point


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