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James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 06 Jul 2015 01:47
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He may possibly be the canine that introduces another sireline separate from the deviated temlee ones that have saturated the market but been great to breeders.
Simon Burke Australia (Verified User) Posts 462 Dogs 13 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 02:37
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If all goes well this could be in the making I think.
Billy Ferguson Australia (Verified User) Posts 442 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 03:45
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Except for injuries Wheeler usually races his dogs forever, Bartolo breed, famous Victorian breeder, will not breed any of his bitches if they have more than 40 starts, there is some evidence for you Betty Angel, Leprechaun Yap,etc.
I am still waiting for anyone to nominate a super sire who had more than 50 starts, I cannot think of one, can anyone?
Billy Ferguson Australia (Verified User) Posts 442 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 03:48
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Answer my question in Australia name one super sire with more than 50 starts, look at the great sires and see the limited starts they all had, simplistic I don't think so the evidence is clear cut
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 06 Jul 2015 04:18
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That's more to do with the dangerous nature of racing than anything else.Im sure PAWS got enough money and wont run the guts out of the dog.
Mark Mihailovic Australia (Verified User) Posts 698 Dogs 1 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 04:43
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William James ferguson wrote:
Answer my question in Australia name one super sire with more than 50 starts, look at the great sires and see the limited starts they all had, simplistic I don't think so the evidence is clear cut
Vee man vane Turanza bale Willian why don't you let us know who's responsible for producing the most non chasers in this country, I think you'll find its stud dogs with 15 or less starts. So there's an argument for both, stud dogs with limited starts and stud dogs with 50 + starts.
Doug Taylor Australia (Verified User) Posts 1896 Dogs 22 / Races 1 06 Jul 2015 05:01
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William James ferguson wrote:
Answer my question in Australia name one super sire with more than 50 starts, look at the great sires and see the limited starts they all had, simplistic I don't think so the evidence is clear cut
Benjamin John Awesome Assassin Tangaloa Pretty Short there's about half a dozen that had more than 40 as well.
I think you'll find it's a reflection on the soundness of fast dogs more than the effect on their siring ability.
Cheers
Mark Mihailovic Australia (Verified User) Posts 698 Dogs 1 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 05:02
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 06:00
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William James ferguson wrote:
Except for injuries Wheeler usually races his dogs forever, Bartolo breed, famous Victorian breeder, will not breed any of his bitches if they have more than 40 starts, there is some evidence for you Betty Angel, Leprechaun Yap,etc.
I am still waiting for anyone to nominate a super sire who had more than 50 starts, I cannot think of one, can anyone?
William , u have a very short memory m8. What about the CHAMPION SIRE : SHINING CHARIOT !!!
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 06:50
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Just off topic Steve what was the name of that dog you were talking about that goes back to New Fox Needles and Pins etc
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 07:10
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John McAlister wrote:
Just off topic Steve what was the name of that dog you were talking about that goes back to New Fox Needles and Pins etc
Not sure unless u can give me a bit more info m8. If not I'll come out 2 your place on Thurs. morn if that's ok.
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 06 Jul 2015 07:59
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that'll be ok
Phil Hall Australia (Verified User) Posts 1320 Dogs 21 / Races 21 11 Jul 2015 09:22
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Makes it 16 in row big run after missing jump and sqeezed got charmed run to fence still very good win 30.00
I thought he was in big trouble after jumping poorly but somehow he made his way up on the rails going around the turn, freakish in many ways not just his early speed.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 11 Jul 2015 09:46
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steven martin wrote:
Can he match the Ray Watson's trained "MISS ELLY MINT's" "straight-wins-record" of 16 wins in-a-row.
Yeap.
Showed another great "Trade" tonight...........Guts.
Although he was not racing Group company tonight, Fernando Bale showed great ticker when it came to the crunch on the first corner.
Most dogs would have been spat out the back door, but he showed great determination to some how sneak through a gap that wasn't there...........And then rail through to go straight to the lead.
Fantastic effort.
James Schierny Australia (Verified User) Posts 784 Dogs 8 / Races 21 11 Jul 2015 11:20
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Just shows hes dont a one trick pony!! doesnt need to lead in the race to win!!!
super dog,,cant wait for our girl to come into season.
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