Nathan - not saying that at all. So Bruce are you saying a punter will know Chris Wallers horses and outcomes better then he himself ? Due to purely stats and fractions printed on paper on past runs ! Laughable I CANT TALK SENSIBLY ABOUT HORSES ALTHOUGH I NOTE WALLER IS REGULARLY UNDER CRITICISM. Trainers have no say where our dogs are placed (stewards discretion) ruins this every week ! So why would one ALWAYS lean to their best galloper ? Another myth Bruce I NOTE THAT TRAINERS CAN CHOOSE TRACKS, DISTANCES AND (EFFECTIVELY) THE CLASS OF RACE. I think this is the reason where any outcome forward and backwards is the conclusion of why we are where we are today on providing the safest and best tracks for our racers Wrong Poeple in the wrong positions And theories that lead to the old saying , putting the cart before the horse Ive listened to you Bruce for 5 years crap on about how the professional engineering is needed and anything else is a failure , well pretty sure theyve had their fair go in the last 5 years with upgrades and new tracks aplenty and now richmond circle track the latest to have a go ! PARTLY TRUE - FEEL FREE TO INSPECT NUMEROUS ARTICLES I HAVE WRITTEN FOR AUSTRALIAN RACING GREYHOUND. WHAT I HAVE ALSO SAID IS (A) WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO DID OR APPROVED WHAT CHANGES AND (B) VERY FEW OF THE CHANGES HAVE DONE ANY GOOD. THE MAIN REASONS FOR THAT ARE (C) THAT THE ENGINEERS FAILED TO PROPERLY ANALYSE HISTORY AND THEREFORE LEARN WHAT WAS NOT WORKING AND (D) THEY JUMPED IN WHERE ANGELS FEARED TO TREAD - IE WITHOUT VERIFYING THEIR THEORIES (EG TRAALGON). Ive already heard the changing of 535 mtr to a 520 mtr , so the run into the corner will now be a 4 sec down from a 5.50 ? Does it take an engineer to figure the outcome of this adjustment or does a trainer need to spell it out that youve just ruined Richmonds 500s and its past heritage to now another smash up wenty track ! Leader goes thru unscathed and 60% of the field gets taken out after the first 100 mtrs I HAVE ALREADY CRITICISED THE PROPOSED RICHMOND LAYOUT - WHERE THE MAIN ISSUES WOULD BE THE FAILURE TO MOVE THE 400M BOXES AROUND TO A KINDER LOCATION AND SIMULTANEOUSLY IMPROVE THE 535M FIRST TURN WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN TOO FLAT, THEREBY CAUSING MANY DOGS TO RUN OFF AND CAUSE EXTRA INTERFERENCE. THAT IS WHY WINS FROM 6-7-8 ARE MUCH LOWER THAN NORMAL. MY BELIEF IS THAT THE RICHMOND HEIRARCHY THINK THEIR TRACK IS BASICALLY ALL RIGHT. IT ISN'T BUT THEY REFUSE TO RECOGNISE THE FAULTS. HAVING SAID THAT I AM NOT SURE WHO CAME UP WITH THE SO-CALLED SOLUTION. Wheres the welfare in this theory and engineering? Honestly how many tracks do the so call professional engineers need to ruin before realising the blokes who use them everyday with all types of runners are the most experienced and valued knowledge COMBINED with engineering is the fastest way to getting the best result Keep glorifying the pro punter Bruce , but dont forget the blokes who provided you your so called refined details already knew it before it was even printed NOT "BLOKES" - ALL MY INFO COMES FROM PUBLISHED RESULTS, AS ANALYSED, TESTED AND VERIFIED BY FURTHER OBSERVATION. What happens after box rise in any negative or unpredictable event is through lack of effort in not producing the products to their safest environment possible Simple and plain as day I AGREE. THE KEY TO THE WHOLE DEAL IS THAT AUTHORITIES (WHO MAKE END DECISIONS) SHOULD BE ABSORBING INFO FROM ALL SOURCES BUT ESPECIALLY FROM PEOPLE CAPABLE OF ASCERTAINING THE FACTS AND THEN INTERPRETING THEM TO THE BENEFIT OF THE INDUSTRY. GENERALLY SPEAKING, UTS HAS NOT DONE THAT, MAINLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT GOT A FEEL FOR HOW DOGS RACE. INSTEAD, THEY WANT DOGS TO DO WHAT UTS THINKS IS GOOD. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE DOGS CANT READ THE REPORTS. YOU IMPLY THAT TRAINERS ARE VITAL TO THIS PROCESS. WELL, CERTAINLY THEY SHOULD BE CONSULTED, ALONG WITH OTHERS AND SHOULD COMMENT ON PROPOSALS. BUT TELL ME HOW MANY TRAINERS HAVE THE TIME TO GATHER ALL THE FACTS, STUDY THEM 24/7 AND THEN COME UP WITH GOOD SOLUTIONS. I DID ALL THAT FOR DONKEYS YEARS AND I STILL CANT DESIGN A TRACK BECAUSE I LACK ALL THE NECESSARY EXPERTISE. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT'S WRONG AND WHY BUT I CAN'T DO THE FULL DESIGN JOB AS I HAVE NEITHER THE TRAINING OR ALL THE DATA. NEITHER DO STATE AUTHORITIES. AS FOR PRO PUNTERS - ARE THERE MANY LEFT? I WAS NEVER ONE ALTHOUGH I USED TO BE A SERIOUS PUNTER WHICH IS A DIFERENT THING. I REPEAT MY SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. ESTABLISH AN INDEPENDENT EXPERT UNIT TO OVERSIGHT ALL AUSTRALIAN TRACKS - NO EXCEPTIONS.
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